Sparta and Athens

[Gregory Hewett]

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1. What were some ways that Sparta and Athens were alike and different?

2. What form of government existed in ancient Sparta?

3. How were direct democracy and education related in Athens?

4. What roles did Athens and Sparta play in defeating the Persians?

5. How did the conquest of the helots make it necessary for Sparta to be a military state, and how did the conquest make such a state possible?

6. How was the role of women in Sparta and Athens different?

[vishnu]

1. What were some ways that Sparta and Athens were alike and different?

Spartans and Athenians both worshipped the same set of Greek gods. They also were both Greek city-states. They were different because Athens had a demcracy while Spartans organized their state based on the need for a strong army. Also Sparta had a mix of monarchy, oligarchy and democracy. Sparta and Aathens are similar and different.

2. What form of government existed in ancient Sparta?

Sparta had many different governments to help rule their state. They had two kings, 5 people in a ruling party, and 30 elder citizens elected to join the council of elders. Sparta had all kinds of government to help run their city.

3. How were direct democracy and education related in Athens?

They were related because in school they learned about democracy. They learned about logic and public-speaking to help politically. They emphasized more on government things and less on military techniques and fighting.

4. What roles did Athens and Sparta play in defeating the Persians?

The Sprtans and Athenians had big roles in fighting the Persians. 300 Spartans guarded a pass into Greece against the Persians. After two days the Spartans were slaughtered , but it gave the Athenians time to build their army. They lead a fleet of ships against the Persians and beta them, which ended the war.

5. How did the conquest of the helots make it necessary for Sparta to be a military state, and how did the conquest make such a state possible?

The Helots made Sparta a very military-based society. When the Spartans conquered the Helots and made them slavs the revolted a lot. The Spartans stopped the revolts, but fear of these revolts led Sparta into focusing everything on their military power.

6. How was the role of women in Sparta and Athens different?

The women in Athens and Sparta were treated very differently. In Athens the women were treated in a less fair way than the men. Women were supposed to be good mothers and wives only. They weren’t allowed to go to school and could only own propety if theirfather had no sons. The only jobs they could do were religious like priestesses. In Sparta the women were treated in more or less the same way as the men. Women were taught to be strong emotionally and physically. They went to school and were taught self-defense. In Sparta there was less emphasis on family-life which gave women more rights. Women were allowed to own property and were expected to watch there husband’s land if they were away at war. Women in Athens and Sparta were treated differently.

[ilari]

1. What were some ways that Sparta and Athens were alike and different?

Sparta and Athens were two different city-states and did not have much in common. The Spartans practiced all their lives to become soldiers, while Athenian citizens practiced literature, government, and other kinds of studies. They were common because they were both city-states who ruled with democracy.

2. What form of government existed in ancient Sparta?

Sparta's government was part monarchy, part oligarchy, and part democracy. Two kings ruled Sparta, who elected five supervisors. The Council of Elders, made up of 30 older citizens, developed the laws for Sparta.

3. How were direct democracy and education related in Athens?

Since all Athenian citizens were expected to participate in government, education about the topic was needed for the citizens to understand about their way of government.

4. What roles did Athens and Sparta play in defeating the Persians?

When Greece was under threat of being invaded by the Persians, Athens and Sparta united to defeat them. Athens's army was too small and inexperienced to fight the Persians alone, so they begged Sparta for help. With Sparta and Athens combined the Persians were out numbered.

5. How did the conquest of the helots make it necessary for Sparta to be a military state, and how did the conquest make such a state possible?

The helots were farmers under the slavery of Sparta. They had to give in 50% of their produce to the Spartans. With the helots working for them to make food, they would not have to worry about having part of their citizens be farmers, they could now fully concentrate on strengthening their army.

6. How was the role of women in Sparta and Athens different?

Women in Sparta had more freedom then in Athens because wives and husbands in Sparta rarely met each other because of Sparta's army training. Women in Sparta were also expected to be strong both physically and emotionally. Athenian women were expected to keep the family society strong. Athenian women could not own or inherit property.

[nicole]

1. What were some ways that Sparta and Athens were alike and different?

While Spartan education focused mainly on making Spartan men stronger by sending them to barracks, Athens' education had a variety of skill development such as public speaking for future debating. Although Sparta required all men to enter the army at the age of 20, Athens' men weren't necessarily required to join unless the government needed them to. One similarity between these two city-states was that all citizens of that city-state were allowed to vote.

2. What form of government existed in ancient Sparta?

Sparta's government was part monarchy, part oligarchy, and part democracy. Two kings ruled Sparta and five elected supervisors ran the government. The Council of Elders, made up of 30 older citizens, proposed laws. All the Spartan citizens were part of the Assembly, it elected officials and voted on the laws proposed by the Council.

3. How were direct democracy and education related in Athens?


4. What roles did Athens and Sparta play in defeating the Persians?

The Athenians were outnumbered by the Persians, so they had to create a clever plan to defeat them. They lured the Persians to the center of the Greek line and killed them with their spears.

5. How did the conquest of the helots make it necessary for Sparta to be a military state, and how did the conquest make such a state possible?

6. How was the role of women in Sparta and Athens different?

[valerio]

1. What were some ways that Sparta and Athens were alike and different?

Sparta and Athens both started school/training at the age of 7. They both trained for war. Both Athens and Sparta had lower class people like slaves and helots.Sparta was much more intense on war. Women were much more free in Sparta.

2. What form of government existed in ancient Sparta?

Sparta's form of government wasn't just one. It was in fact all three of them. Part Oligarchy, part Democracy, and part Monarchy.

3. How were direct democracy and education related in Athens?

Direct Democracy and Education were related in athens because when children started education they learned about democracy and how to be a good citizen.

4. What did Athens and Sparta play in defeating the Persians?

Sparta held the persians off while athens builtan army so whn the Spartans fell the athenians took over and finished the war. So nobody would have won if they didn't have each other.

5. How did the conquest of the helots make it necessary for Sparta to be a military state, and how did the conquest make such a state possible?

Because then Sparta didn't have to worry about keeping any farmers so then they could have only men to fight in great and merciless wars.

6. How was the role of women in Sparta and Athens different?

In Sparta women were expected to be tough. Athenian women on the other hand were expected to be housewives and know the household duties. Spartan women could own property if they wanted to. Though women from Athens could only inherit property if there father had no sons. They were also respected for keeping society together.

[alice]

1. What were some ways that Sparta and Athens were alike and different?

Athenians and Spartans both had to serve the army when they are needed. In both, men had bigger power and more rights than women. Athens taught only wealthy boys, to make them good citizens, but Sparta taught both boys and girls to make them strong enough to keep Sparta strong.

2. What form of government existed in ancient Sparta?

It was part monarchy, part oligarchy, and part democracy. There was two kings and five supervisors running government. Every citizens were allowed to vote at the Council.

3. How were direct democracy and education related in Athens?

Ancient Athenian citizens had a chance to debate a lot, because every citizens should decide on politicians or judgement. Wealthy boys went school at seven and learned logic and public speaking. They learned these to debate when they grow up at future.

4. What roles did Athens and Sparta play in defeating the Persians?

Athens first defeated Persian by bringing Persian to the center and defeating them with spears. When Persia invaded Athens again in 840 B.C., Spartans helped they win Persians by blocking Thermopylae, a narrow path with 300 soldiers. Athens united many city states to fight with Persians.

5. How did the conquest of the helots make it necessary for Sparta to be a military state, and how did the conquest make such a state possible?

6. How was the role of women in Sparta and Athens different?

Spartan women were trained to make their sons or daughter strong. Girls also got military training when they were young. In Sparta, good and strict mother was good women. Athenian women were not taught like boys, and they weren't trained for military purpose. What they did is being good wife and mother in their house.

[keshav]

1.What were some ways that Sparta and Athens were alike and different?
They both had some form of democracy. Sparta focuses on military while Athens focuses on studies. Even in schools in Sparta boys learnt how how to fight. Also Athens and Sparta both gave less respect to women
2. What form of government existed in ancient Sparta?
They had a government tht was partly olygargy partly, monarchy, and partly demcracy. Two kings ruled and five elected supervisors ran the government. The officials were elacted and the people ote on the laws proposed by the consil
3. How were direct democracy and education related in Athens?
In schools in Athens the boys were educated about writing poetry reading and other things

4. What roles did Athens and Sparta play in defeating the Persians?
The first time the Persians attacked Athens Sparta came to late, But the Athenians still won. When the Persians attacked a second time the Spartans stalled them so the Athenians were ready when the persians broke through. Then the Athenians did the rest.

5. How did the conquest of the helots make it necessary for Sparta to be a millitary state, and how did the conquest make such a state possible?

6. How was the role of women in Sparta and Athens different?
Women in Sparta had to be tough. While all the women in Athens just had to be good wifes and mothers to keep the family strong. While girls in sparta went to school and where they learned to defend themselves. The Athenian girls didn’t go to school

[kate]

1. What were some ways that Sparta and Athens were alike and different?
Sparta and Athens both had citizens that were part of assembly. They both also voted on laws that were proposed by the council. In Sparta two kinds ruled and five elected supervisors’ ran the government whereas in Athens There were two governing bodies.


2. What form of government existed in ancient Sparta?
Sparta was partly monarchy, partly oligarchy and partly democracy. Five supervisors ran the government and Sparta was put into three groups. Citizens lived in the city and spent their time training for soldiers. Non-citizens lived in villages and had no political rights. Lastly the lowest group helots, their labor fed Sparta.

3.How were direct democracy and education related in Athens?

4. What roles did Athens and Sparta play in defeating the Persians?
In 500 B.C Persia conquered Anatolia, a region with many Greek colonies. Anatolia revolted against the Persian rule so Athens sent out a ship to help them. The revolt failed but the Persians decided to punish Athens for interfering. Then the Athenians send a person to ask Sparta to come and help them but it was too late. The Athenians made a smart plan and in the end the Persian lost 6400 and the Greeks lost 192.

5. How did the conquest of the helots make it necessary for Sparta to be a military state, and how did the conquest make such a state possible?

6. How was the role of women in Sparta and Athens different?
The Spartan society expected women to be tough, brave and strong. The education was to make the girls strong and learn how to defend themselves. Athens expected women to be good wives and mothers. Their roles heed keep the family strong. The girls did not go to school they learned household duties from their mother. The Spartan women had more freedom than the Athenian women.

[sigapi]

1. What were some ways that Sparta and Athens were alike and different?


2. What form of government existed in ancient Sparta?
The Sparta society was partly monarchy, partly oligarchy and partly democracy. Two kings ruled and five elected supervisors ran the government.


3. How were direct democracy and education related in Athens?


4. What roles did Athens and Sparta play in defeating the Persians?
Athens sent ships to help them. Revolt failed but Persians decided to punish them for interfering. Athenians sent a runner to ask Sparta to help, but Spartans come too late. Athenians were outnumbered so they used a clever plan. 300 Spartans guarded narrow paths at Thermopylae to stop them from reaching Athens. They held pass for two days and then the Athenians leave the city to fight.

5. How did the conquest of the helots make it necessary for Sparta to be a military state, and how did the conquest make such a state possible?
About 715 B.C., Sparta conquered its neighboring area to gain land this is what changed Sparta. Spartans forced the defeated people to become slaves who are called helots. Helots worked on the farm and half the crops went to Spartans, Helots rebelled but Spartans fought back, Spartans had a lot more people. The fear of these revolts led Sparta to become a state that focused on building a strong military based army.

6. How was the role of women in Sparta and Athens different?
Spartan people expected their women to be tough emotionally and physically, while Athens people expected their women to be good wives and mothers. In Sparta education for girls was to make them strong, they did athletic training and learned how to defend themselves; while in Athens they didn’t focus on becoming strong some women could read and write. Women roles in Athens were to keep the family strong, while in Sparta they were apart most of the time. For an Athenian women family was very important, but in Sparta emphasis made family less important.